Monday, November 30, 2009
Anti-feminists are still telling lies
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If you need your daily dose of disgust, head on over to Men's News Daily to check out Paul Elam's charming article, "The Myth of Women's Oppression." In it, he so ignorantly compares women's oppression to the oppression faced by people of color, deducting that since women were never lynched or made into actual slaves on plantations, clearly our lives are a walk in the park.
Getting through the rest of this steaming pile of garbage was a task for me, as my stomach began churning and I thought I was going to vomit all over Paul Elan's sickening words.
Go post your comments and tell Pauly that he needs to actually meet a feminist before publicly trashing them. My comment went something like:
Are you serious? You base "oppression" solely off of whether or not someone was PHYSICALLY abused? You have an extremely warped view of oppression.
But if we want to go by your definition, let's look at the grossly high rape statistics. Yes yes, men are raped too, but not nearly as often as women are. Why is this? Because of deeply embedded stereotypes that women are weak playthings to be used and abused.
And let's pan out a bit and look at women globally. If you are a woman in the Middle East or in Africa, you have a shitload to worry about. Perhaps you were forced to live underground after surviving a rape because your family was so ashamed of you that they kicked you out, or maybe you have no choice but to undergo genital cutting, in which your clitoris is cut or removed or your entire vagina is sewn shut to ensure that you do not experience any type of sexual pleasure until you are forced into marriage. Or maybe you live in the Democratic Republic of Congo, where you constantly have to worry about you or your daughters or your sisters or your friends being raped endlessly and left with unwanted pregnancies, STDs, or a torn vagina. For these women, I'd say feminism is pretty damn important.
And as far as the "the older rules for men" go... do you honestly believe that all men follow these "rules"? Touch her in the wrong way and you're a dead man? That's a nice rosy picture... but let's get back to reality.
You have such an incorrect view of what feminism is. Methinks you have never experienced an ounce of oppression in your lifetime, unless you count the big bad feminists stomping all over poor little you.
Women were never oppressed to begin with. Not even close.
I’m no historian, but I did attend some history classes before I finished middle school. So, by the time I was 13, I knew what oppression was. And lucky for me I was 13 in a time when people still knew what it wasn’t.
Oppression has some pretty obvious tell tale signs. Like torture and death; like bullwhips and chains; gas chambers and death camps. Oppression is a roadmap of scars on the back of a field hand that was purchased at an auction. It is the rope that gets strung over a tree branch in broad daylight and used to choke the life out of someone convicted of being the wrong color.
Getting through the rest of this steaming pile of garbage was a task for me, as my stomach began churning and I thought I was going to vomit all over Paul Elan's sickening words.
Go post your comments and tell Pauly that he needs to actually meet a feminist before publicly trashing them. My comment went something like:
Are you serious? You base "oppression" solely off of whether or not someone was PHYSICALLY abused? You have an extremely warped view of oppression.
But if we want to go by your definition, let's look at the grossly high rape statistics. Yes yes, men are raped too, but not nearly as often as women are. Why is this? Because of deeply embedded stereotypes that women are weak playthings to be used and abused.
And let's pan out a bit and look at women globally. If you are a woman in the Middle East or in Africa, you have a shitload to worry about. Perhaps you were forced to live underground after surviving a rape because your family was so ashamed of you that they kicked you out, or maybe you have no choice but to undergo genital cutting, in which your clitoris is cut or removed or your entire vagina is sewn shut to ensure that you do not experience any type of sexual pleasure until you are forced into marriage. Or maybe you live in the Democratic Republic of Congo, where you constantly have to worry about you or your daughters or your sisters or your friends being raped endlessly and left with unwanted pregnancies, STDs, or a torn vagina. For these women, I'd say feminism is pretty damn important.
And as far as the "the older rules for men" go... do you honestly believe that all men follow these "rules"? Touch her in the wrong way and you're a dead man? That's a nice rosy picture... but let's get back to reality.
You have such an incorrect view of what feminism is. Methinks you have never experienced an ounce of oppression in your lifetime, unless you count the big bad feminists stomping all over poor little you.
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November 30, 2009 at 6:29 PM
yeah, not sure when you commented, but it's not there now. I suspect they edit out logical arguments. I'd like to be proven wrong.
December 1, 2009 at 9:50 AM
women are raped more often because they are weaker
December 1, 2009 at 2:54 PM
Oh Burn, I can always count on you to say something charming.
December 1, 2009 at 10:24 PM
I can't believe even women are agreeing with this shit.
December 2, 2009 at 1:16 PM
If women were weaker, which they are not, that's a better reason to take care of them, not to attack them. Rapists are just coward men. Pathetic.
December 3, 2009 at 8:41 AM
yeah. Because I prefer not to lie.
If someone comes near me and says "you know, I have that little stereotype, so I'm gonna rape you here and now", I'd kick his ass hard. A woman doesn't do that, because of ... why, really, if she can?
January 15, 2010 at 2:16 AM
Methinks thou doth protest too much.
The fallacy in comparing women's history to those of the truly oppressed came not from me, but from your feminist icons that made those very claims repeatedly over the years.
I suppose your point is that it is only stupid to make the comparison if you are seeing the contrasts vs the similarities.
Typical.
And FYI NO comments are edited out of MND unless they are in violation of the commenting policy. Most of the few times we do it is for personal attacks.
Sound familiar?
Our comment section has entries from feminists who dissent all the time.
Cheers.
January 15, 2010 at 2:37 AM
Welcome to my blog, Paul! :) I still don't agree with a word of yours, and probably never will. But thanks for stopping by nonetheless.
January 28, 2010 at 11:40 AM
That is utterly repulsive. Women had it easy? Really? News about men were always more "important" or reported rather than things about women. Back the, how many women were 'property' and bought. Did people ever make it public what happened to them behind closed doors or out of the publics eye? Just because he attended a few history classes doesn't mean anything. History did not report every aspect that happened.
Women are perceived as being weaker. Women are beaten down emotionally more than men. They go through so much more, but because men are so much more 'superior,' people never really acknowledge it.
April 5, 2010 at 9:31 AM
This really angers me. Women have been oppressed in many different ways INCLUDING physical. Oppression of the mind should not be seen lightly. Women were denied, and are still denied, the same level of education as men. That is one of the main reasons women don't make as much money as men. Its one thing to oppress women but then to deny it ever happened is adding insult to injury.